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Self cannot leave the Body.There is no going and coming for the Self.Self alone is.The Body viewed as a corpse is only an 'idea'.This 'idea' is used to counter another idea-'I am Body'.In deep sleep,do we perceive Body as a corpse?No,it just does not even exist.
Just like in dream,the mind projects the Dream Body and a Dream world,so in the waking state,the mind projects a Body and the world.
Self alone exists in Sleep,dream and Waking State.The 'I' persists in all these three states and when enquired into, disappears and what then remains cannot be described.There is none to describe it.There is no one to 'own' it and say 'I am Liberated'.

General topics / Bhajana Dhyana -discussions
« on: October 20, 2012, 09:12:22 AM »
Yes,the Arati song on Sri Ramakrishna and the one on Holy Mother- 'Prakruti Pramam'are simply wonderful.In R K Mutt ,Mylapore Chennai,the swamiji who performs the Arati is a great soul;it is deeply inspiring to just watch him,the way he walks gracefully in a poised manner,and after the preliminaries of the ritual how he gets up and waves the vespers ,one hand holding the Lighted Lamp and the other hand ringing the Bell in a measured way-the way the hand holding the lamp makes wavy motion as if a fish is joyously swimming in the ocean-A real treat to watch.A Picture of Stillness in Motion.
I warmly recommend this to all devotees who are in chennai ,to visit on Sunday evening ;after the vespers there are some wonderful Bhajans for about an hour.
This song by Devendra Mazumdar is a Great favourite of mine.Please visit:

This is a Bengali song and is composed by Devendranath Mazumdar(and not by Swami Vivekananda)and can be easily understood by those who are familiar with sanskrit or Hindi.

CHAPTER I ,The Four Aids

Yoga-siddhi, the perfection that comes from the practice of Yoga, can be best attained by the combined working of four great instruments. There is, first, the knowledge of the truths, principles, powers and processes that govern the realisation -- sastra. Next comes a patient and persistent action on the lines laid down by the knowledge, the force of our personal effort -- utsaha. There intervenes, third, uplifting our knowledge and effort into the domain of spiritual experience, the direct suggestion, example and influence of the Teacher -- guru. Last comes the instrumentality of Time -- kala; for in all things there is a cycle of their action and a period of the divine movement.
The supreme Shastra of the integral Yoga is the eternal Veda secret in the heart of every thinking and living being. The lotus of the eternal knowledge and the eternal perfection is a bud closed and folded up within us. It opens swiftly or gradually, petal by petal, through successive realisations, once the mind of man begins to turn towards the Eternal, once his heart, no longer compressed and confined by attachment to finite appearances, becomes enamoured, in whatever degree, of the Infinite. All life, all thought, all energising of the faculties, all experiences passive or active, become thenceforward so many shocks which disintegrate the teguments of the soul and remove the obstacles to the inevitable efflorescence. He who chooses the Infinite has been chosen by the Infinite. He has received the divine touch without which there is no awakening, no opening of the spirit; but once it is received, attainment is sure, whether conquered swiftly in the course of one human life or pursued patiently through many stadia of the cycle of existence in the manifested universe.

Nothing can be taught to the mind which is not already concealed as potential knowledge in the unfolding soul of the creature. So also all perfection of which the outer man is capable, is only a realising of the eternal perfection of the Spirit within him. We know the Divine and become the Divine, because we are That already in our secret nature. All teaching is a revealing, all becoming is an unfolding. Self-attainment is the secret; self-knowledge and an increasing consciousness are the means and the process.[/left]

The usual agency of this revealing is the Word, the thing heard (sruta). The Word may come to us from within; it may come to us from without. But in either case, it is only an agency for setting the hidden knowledge to work. The word within may be the utterance of the inmost soul in us which is always open to the Divine or it may be the word of the secret and universal Teacher who is seated in the hearts of all. There are rare cases in which none other is needed, for all the rest of the Yoga is an unfolding under that constant touch and guidance; the lotus of the knowledge discloses itself from within by the power of irradiating effulgence which proceeds from the Dweller in the lotus of the heart. Great indeed, but few are those to whom self-knowledge from within is thus sufficient and who do not need to pass under the dominant influence of a written book or a living teacher.

Ordinarily, the Word from without, representative of the Divine, is needed as an aid till the work of self-unfolding; and it may be either a word from the past or the more powerful word of the living Guru. In some cases this representative word is only taken as a sort of excuse for the inner power to awaken and manifest; it is, as it were, a concession of the omnipotent and omniscient Divine to the generality of a law that governs Nature. Thus it is said in the Upanishads of Krishna, son of Devaki, that he received a word of the Rishi Ghora and had the knowledge. So Ramakrishna, having attained by his own internal effort the central illumination, accepted several teachers in the different paths of Yoga, but always showed in the manner and swiftness of his realisation that this acceptance was a concession to the general rule by which effective knowledge must be received as by a disciple from a Guru.


I wish to share some of the compositions of Yogi ShuddhAnanda BhAratiyAr in Tamizh.I am not attempting any translation as of now.May be later.These are offered as it is ,in Tamizh and with the rAga and tAla as indicated by the composer.They are meant to be sung but we may enjoy it as it is.
Friends who are not familiar with Tamizh may please excuse.If nAgarAj or Subramanian attempt a translation,they are most welcome to do so.

Humour / Problem vs Solution
« on: September 26, 2012, 11:48:34 PM »

One fine day, a bus driver went to the bus garage, started his bus, and drove off along the route. No problems for the first few stops - a few people got on, a few got off, and things went generally well.

At the next stop, however, a big hulk of a Pathan got on. Six feet four, built like a wrestler, arms hanging down to the ground. He glared at the conductor and said, "Pathan doesn't pay!" and sat down at the back.

Conductor didn't argue with Pathan, but he wasn't happy about it. The next day the same thing happened – Pathan got on again, made a show of refusing to pay, and sat down. And the next day, and the next..

This grated on the bus driver, who started losing sleep over the way Pathan was taking advantage of the poor conductor. Finally he could stand it no longer. He signed up for body building courses, karate, judo, and all that good stuff.

By the end of the summer, he had become quite strong; what's more, he felt really good about himself. So, on the next Monday, when Pathan once again got on the bus and said, "Pathan doesn't pay!"

The driver stood up, glared back at Pathan, and screamed, "And why not?"

With a surprised look on his face, Pathan replied, "Pathan has a bus pass."

Lesson: Be sure there is a problem in the first place before working hard to solve one.

General topics / Karma and jnAna-KAnchi mahAswami
« on: June 02, 2012, 05:32:51 AM »
kAnchi mahAswami,sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati was a contemporary of Sri Bhagavan .He is a Brahma jnAni and his words of wisdom has been brought out in 8 Volumes called 'Deivathin kural' in Tamil,meaning 'Voice of Divinity'.A devotee of the kAnchi mahAswami has been lovingly translating these wonderful words into English.I intend posting a Few excerpts here.
Time and again,I have seen that enthusiasts of the jnAna mArga ,while they are otherwise engaged in worldly activities and ignoring this basic fact,show a cold shoulder when it comes to social service-totally forgetting that all the benefits that we are enjoying are on account of such a service by people we do not even know!
With this in mind,I have focused on what the Sage of Kanchi has said regarding social activities.

General Discussion / Bhakti-Sri Aurobindo
« on: May 31, 2012, 09:57:49 PM »

Sharing is best done with the words of Masters as it is instinct with the Light,power and Love of the Divine.
In this series of posts ,I intend posting from the Excellent 'Letters On Yoga' by Sri Aurobindo that deal with Devotion.

Letters on Yoga:Sadhana Through Love and Devotion
There is always the personal and the impersonal side of the
Divine and the Truth and it is a mistake to think the impersonal
alone to be true or important
, for that leads to a void incomplete
ness in part of the being, while only one side is given satisfaction.
Impersonality belongs to the intellectual mind and the static
self, personality to the soul and heart and dynamic being.
who disregard the personal Divine ignore something which is
profound and essential
In following the heart in its purer impulses one follows
something that is at least as precious as the mind's loyalty to its
own conceptions of what the Truth may be.


The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Our Bhagavan-Comments
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:26:01 AM »
Please post your comments on Our Bhagavan-Stories or any other related comment here.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:23:51 AM »
I scrolled through the topics in this section to see if there is anything exclsively devoted to Stories on sri Bhagavan.I could not locate one,so I am opening a new thread for collecting stories on Sri Bhagavan.I am also opening a seperate thread along with this -Our Bhagavan-Comments thread.It will be convenient to add stories that devotees enjoyed to the Stories thread and any comments that one may have to the comments thread.

One of the Little Gem of a Book is 'At the Feet of Bhagavan' by Sri T K Sundaresa Iyer.This has some truly wonderful stories about Sri Bhagavan,his intense Humanity and Love for one and all.
Here is one such story:

IT was the early hours of the morning in the Hall of Sri
Bhagavan. He had had His bath, and now went to the
farther end of the Hall to take His towel that hung from
a horizontally suspended bamboo, at one end of which
a sparrow had built her nest and laid therein three or
four eggs.
In the process of taking His towel Sri Bhagavan’s
hand came against the nest, which shook violently, so
that one of the eggs dropped down. In this way the egg
was cracked; Sri Bhagavan was taken aback, aghast. He
cried out to Madhavan, the personal attendant. “Look,
look what I have done today!” So saying, He took the
cracked egg in His hand looked at it with His tender
eyes, and exclaimed: “Oh, the poor mother will be so
sorrow-stricken, perhaps angry with me also, at my causing
the destruction of her expected little one! Can the cracked
eggshell be pieced together again? Let us try!
So saying, He took a piece of cloth, wetted it, wrapped
it around the broken egg, and put it back in the mother’s
nest. Every three hours He would take out the cracked
egg, remove the cloth, place the egg on His roseate palm,
and gaze at it with His tender eyes for minutes together.
What was He really doing at this time? How can we
say? Was He sending with those wonderful looks of gentle
Grace life-giving beams into the cracked egg, putting ever
newer warmth and life into it? That is a mystery none can
solve. Yet He kept on saying: “Let the crack be healed!
Cannot this be hatched even now? Let the little one come
from this broken egg!”
This anxious concern and tenderness of Sri Maharshi
continued from day to day for about a week. So the
fortunate egg lay in the nest with its wet bandage cloth,
only to be fondled by Sri Maharshi with divine touch
and benign look. On the seventh day, He takes out the
egg, and with the astonishment of a schoolboy
announces: “Look what a wonder! The crack has closed,
and so the mother will be happy and will hatch her egg
after all! My God has freed me from the sin of causing
the loss of a life. Let us wait patiently for the blessed
young one to come out!”
A few more days pass, and at length one fine morning
Bhagavan finds the egg has been hatched1 and the little
bird has come out. With gleeful smiling face radiant with
the usual light, He takes the child in His hand, caresses it
with lips, stroking it with His soft hand, and passes it on
for all the bystanders to admire. He receives it back at last
into His own hands, and is so happy that one little germ
of life has been able to evolve in spite of the unhappy
accident to it in the embryo.
Ah, what concern for the meanest of creation! Is it
not the heart of the real Buddha which shed first tears of
anxiety at the crack in the eggshell and then tears of joy
at the birth of the new-born babe? Could the milk of
kindness ever be seen or conceived of sweeter than this?

-T K Sundaresa Iyer.

General Discussion / Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »
Friends,I thought of initiating this 'Rough Notebook-Open Forum' taking a cue from David's Blog.With so many topics initiated by our friends in this Forum,I feel like a child wanting to know which notebook to write in;I presume that this would be a sort of Rough notebook where one can discuss/post freely with no subject in Focus,in free format.This would help me to avoid posting 'Off Topic' posts in other thematic ones initiated by other friends.If I have anything at all to say with regard to any post or query,I intend posting it in that very thread if that query or my response is in line with that Topic;if not,I intend reverting to this 'Rough Notebook' for posting my response.

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