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Venamma’s mango tree
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2012, 08:17:50 PM »
Friends,

On September 1st, Sri Ravi had posted this article from "Letters from Ramanasramam" topic titled "POOR MAN’S MITE,30th November, 1947"

I am posting a part of the article that talks about Sri venammAl, here:


“Why not tell us some of the incidents of those days?” we asked. Kunjuswami agreed and began to tell us as follows:

“One day, we all felt like going round the hill with Bhagavan. When we told him, he readily consented and we started that afternoon immediately after food. It was usual for Bhagavan to walk slowly while going round the hill, so Venamma hearing that he had gone and confident that she could catch up with the party in no time, started out with a big basket of provisions. “We were passing Sona Thirtham when Bhagavan noticed Venamma at a distance, approaching, and he said, ‘There, you see, Venamma is coming. Someone must have told her and sent her with a basket of food. However much I protest, people will not give up these things. There she is, with a heavy load on her head. All right, this is going to be a punishment for her.’“So saying, he began to walk fast. Could she overtake him if he walked fast? Let us see. She continued to hurry, panting and fretting all the time, but did not stop walking.Bhagavan continued to walk in this way until we passed the Gautamasram, when he looked back. He could see that she, too, was walking fast, and, his heart melting at the sight, he led us to a mango grove that was nearby the road.

“Standing under the shade of one of the trees, Bhagavan said, ‘We will stop here. There is a well, and if not here, we may not get water anywhere else near. I was hoping that she would give us up, but she would not. She is tired and is panting for breath. What a shame!’ So saying, he sat down. “Unable to discover our whereabouts, and coming up to the trees, Venamma began anxiously saying, ‘Where has Bhagavan gone? There is no sign of him anywhere’. When Bhagavan heard this, he began laughing, whereupon she traced us to where we were and joined us. After eating what she had brought us, we began our walk again, Venamma now with us. From that day, we named the tree Venamma’s mango tree.


the pios lady mentioned in the article is actually one of our former forum member Sri Viswanathan Sir's great grand mother, he has shared briefly here, when he was a member before. Sri venammA is the younger sister of of echammAl, and like echammAl, venammA was devoted to Bhagavan from virupAkShA days. During the last days of mother Alagammal, Venuammal did  great service to Alagammal. Incidentally venammAl  is Viswanathan Sir's mother's (Rajalakshmi's) grand mother and it was Venammal who raised his mother(Rajalakshmi's) from the age of 3. Venammal passed away in 1965 and during her last days , she lived with Sri Viswanthan sir in Chennai.

Viswanathan Sir is very much interested to locate the tree named as Venamma tree referred in the article "Poor Man's Mite"by suri nagamma. I request if any body has any information, to kindly share the same about the venamma tree.

You can read more about Venuammal in the article appeared in Mountain path under the title "My childhood with Bhagavan"



This is the photo taken in 1920 in Skandasramam in the hill. Bhagavan can be seen with koupina. Just below him sitting on floor is Bhagavan Ramana's mother Alazammal and next to her on her left hand side is Viswanathan Sir's great grand mother Venuammal  who raised  his mother (smt Rajalajkshmi) Also you can see Mastan Swami seated in the top row and it is only photo of Mastan Swami available. The old lady seated just below Mastan Swami is Akilandamma  also known as Desuramma  who is senior to Bhagavan  by age and she was responsible for introducing Mastan Swami to Bhagavan. Just below Desuramma, the person  seated in the floor in first row with vibuthi on chest ,hands and fore head is  is Ramanatha Brahmachari. To his right seated in the floor is Chinnaswamy (Bhagavan's brother). There is also one Annamalai Swami in this group(Not the annamalai swami who supervised ashram construction)



Sri Viswanathan sir's mother smt. Rajalakshmi, can be seen in the above picture aged 8 can be seen in the group.She is the only female in the group, the first from right, in the second row from down.

Thank you all,

with prayers,

मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2012, 05:28:23 PM »
Dear Sri Nagaraj, Thank You so much for these wonderful stories! They are truly touching,and i enjoy reading them,more then anything else. With love and prayers...
Love

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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2012, 06:16:18 PM »
Sri Jewel,

Gratitude :) , truly, all thanks to Sri Bhagavan who chose to play this lIlA or play :) for all of us!

with prayers,

मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2012, 07:55:35 PM »
Subramanian Sir,

Apt verse, you have quoted Sir, what joy!

மெய்யே உன் பொன் அடிகள் கண்டு இன்று வீடு உற்றேன்
உய்ய என் உள்ளத்துள் ஓங்காரமாய் நின்ற
மெய்யா விமலா விடைப்பாகா வேதங்கள்
ஐயா எனவோங்கி ஆழ்ந்து அகன்ற நுண்ணியனே 35


Truly, seeing Thy golden feet this day, I've gained release.
O Truth! as the OngAram dwelling in my soul,
That I may 'scape. O spotless one ! O Master of the bull !
Lord of the VEdas! Rising, sinking, spreading, subtile One ! (35)

Thank you Sir, kindly keep posting select verses, it is truly a joy.

मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2012, 05:11:20 PM »
Sri Swayam,

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Dear Balaji

Thanks for sharing this. All Mahatmas time and again tell the same thing - staying humble and I wonder how often i remember this.
Just read few things about few Mahatmas gives me a feeling as if I know 'something'. This anecdote reminds me how much more I have to learn and unlearn. Bhagavan's heart melts at any small instance of pure , motive less bhakthi or adoration or love. They don't miss any such instance however small it may appear to us and help uplift the person/animal. No words to express HIS love. Can't type more as Iam in office now.Thanks again for sharing this

request you to kindly post your comments in this thread, as it will remain orderly and systematic :)

Thank you,

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मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2012, 05:35:21 PM »
Dear Balaji,

Excellent Story. Manikkavachagar also says: You are the Effulgence showing me Light......  (Keerthi Tiru Ahaval, Tiruvachakam.)


தூண்டு சோதி தோற்றிய தொன்மையும்
அந்தணன் ஆகி ஆண்டுகொண்டருளி
இந்திர ஞாலம் காட்டிய இயல்பும்
மதுரைப் பெருநல் மாநகர் இருந்து
குதிரைச் சேவகன் ஆகிய கொள்கையும் 45

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2012, 08:36:14 PM »
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He asked me if there was a temple in my village. I told him there was. He wanted to know the name of the deity of that temple. I told Him the name. He then said that I should go on repeating the name of that deity and I would receive all the blessings needed."
I came back to Bhagavan's presence and sat among the devotees listening to the learned discussion, in which I had now lost all interest, realizing that the simple humility and devotion of this peasant had evoked a far greater response from our Master than any amount of learning. I then decided that, though a scholar by profession, I should always remain a humble, ignorant peasant at heart, and pray, like that villager, for Bhagavan's grace and blessings.

Sri Swayam,

A very touching incident, indeed! Thank you!

I felt, one of the reasons such incidents touch our hearts more, is because, there is that peasant in all of us, but it is covered with all our intelligence and various other things.

How much should it take that Sri Bhagavan himself got up and walked towards this devotee! truly humbling! Truly humbling!

मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2012, 07:18:25 AM »
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Dear Guru Bhandhus

Sorry was not aware of this thread, yes any comments, will post here.Thanks for letting me know.

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A Guru can do miracles by a mere gaze.

Arunachala Siva.   

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

So true Sir !, so true.

Sir!, one request

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    an incident about Bhagavan's closeness to animals. A diseased dog was trying to enter the gates of Ramanashram daily for 3 days. Other dogs and some Ashram people kept driving it away. One night Bhagavan slowly walked out of the hall without disturbing anyone. The person attending him thought he was going to the bathroom and followed him at a distance. After a couple of minutes, when Bhagavan did not return, he went looking for him and heard Bhagavan’s voice saying “Thrupthiyachaa?” “Podhumaa ?” (Is it enough ?, Are you satisfied?). He found Bhagavan squatting next to the diseased dog. The dog was licking Bhagavan all over his body including his face while Bhagavan was talking to the dog with these words. After a few minutes, Bhagavan got up and slept on the cot without bothering to clean himself. Next day morning, the Ashramites found the dog lying dead near the entrance. The dog was holding on to its life to have Bhagavan's Darshan.

Can you pl tell me in which book this wonderful story is there.Got tears when I was reading it y'day in office, could not work afterwards.
Thanks a TON for sharing this

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2012, 07:34:07 AM »
Swayam,
Thanks very much;this way,we can keep the threads uncluttered and easy to read for anyone who wants to read what is posted.
Namaskar.

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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2012, 10:28:27 AM »
Dear Swayam,

This incident is narrated in one of the 8 volumes of Arunachala Ramana - the boundless ocean of Grace. I shall tell you the
specific volume and page number soon.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2012, 02:17:05 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

The prostrations story is wonderful. Prostration is essentially to show the submission of ego to Guru or God. Sri Bhagavan does
not take anything free. So though He has no ego, He says He is prostrating to the devotee, even before the devotee prostrates to
Him.  Is He not the Guru, who allowed His leg to be stung by bees when He had accidentally trampled on the bush with bees and
created problems for them? He does not take anything  free. If He has committed a mistake to someone, He gladly receives the
punishment too!


Arunachala Siva.     


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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2012, 04:43:16 PM »
Dear Swayam,

This incident is narrated in one of the 8 volumes of Arunachala Ramana - the boundless ocean of Grace. I shall tell you the
specific volume and page number soon.

Arunachala Siva.

Thanks much Sir

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

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« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2012, 01:26:16 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

This incident of Sri Bhagavan having had to break His collar bone, due to His throwing the stick between the squirrel
and the pouncing dog, - has been beautifully rendered by one Ana Callan Ram, an Indian living in America and  also
a great Ramana devotee. This poem appeared in one of the Mountain Path Issues during the years 2009-2012. I shall
post it when I am able to lay my hands on it.

Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2012, 05:54:04 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

That poem which I referred to appears in Jan-Mar. 2012 of Mountain Path. It is written by one Ana Callan Ram, an Indian
living in America.

Collarbone broken as He tried
to save a squirrel from a dog,

body frail and waning as He
trailed uphill behind two men

to skandasramam. He came
to admire the stone mason's

quiet work, saying,
when He arrived,
'your prayers dragged
 me here.' And as I

read of such humble
tender of love, the tears

could not be quenched
for He who was God
of Gods and oh such
lover of men.

The second part of the story explains how in spite of difficulty Sri Bhagavan climbed to the Skandasramam to appreciate
the stone mason's work. Both the incidents show His ocean of compassion.

Arunachala Siva. 
 

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« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2012, 06:28:32 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Ramana Mayvane song occurs in Sri Ramana Sanndhi Murai. It is Sri Bhagavan who told Meenakshi to sing the song changing
Muruga Mayavane....On hearing this, Muruganar left the Old Hall in a huff. He did not return for quite some time. Sri Bhagavan
then said with abundant compassion: Meenakshi! I am trying my best to make you and Muruganar united. But that guy does not
come around. What to do? Anyway you have no children. But I can assure you wherever you are - either in Asramam or elsewhere,
this Asramam will take care of you. Accordingly Prof. K. Swaminathan when he was in charge of Ramana Kendra was sending some
pension to her to Chennai everymonth. Muruganar also had left some money with one Chettiar to be given to Meenkashi every
month. With all that and with rising inflation, it became difficult for her to live. Later A.R.  Natrajan was also sending some money
to her. She was living with her relative and on the last day, when she was in death bed, in Chennai, suddenly a golden deer came
into her house, (where can there be a dear in Chennai streets?) and touched its head with that of Meenakshi and she passed away.
Sri  Bhagvan took care of her liberation.

Meenakshi was fond of coffee. Once she was restless in the Hall, since coffee was coming late. The all knowing Sri Bhagavan
knew this. When coffee at last arrived, He said: Give coffee to Meenashi first. Similarly He got some pair of saris from Kovilur
Math, since Meenkashi was wearing tattered saris.

Karunaiyal ennai Anda nee....

With all the didfficulties of life, Meenakshi had high regard for both Sri Bhagavan and Murugnar. She never even once spoke ill
of them for having spoiled  her married life..

(Heard from one old lady in T'malai Ashram - the latter part of the story, i.e. deer coming and touching her on her face.)

Arunachala Siva.