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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1710 on: March 12, 2013, 06:30:11 PM »
Dear Hari,

Nice, The city of Brahman is the lotus of Heart.  It is not somewhere far away like Vaikuntam, Kailasam, Heaven and Hell.

It is so near. It can be reached by the straight path of Self Inquiry or self surrender.

Arunachala Siva. 

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1711 on: March 12, 2013, 06:34:11 PM »
Dear Hari,

Beautiful!!! Simply beautiful... Thank You!

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1712 on: March 12, 2013, 07:13:27 PM »
"You must find your own way. Unless you find it yourself, it will not be your own way and will take you nowhere. Earnestly live your truth as you have found it, act on the little you have understood. It is earnestness that will take you through, not cleverness - your own or another's."

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1713 on: March 12, 2013, 07:51:36 PM »
Beautiful quote from Maharaj,dear Hari. I find this comletely true. We must find our own way. And it is logical even. Thats why it is unexplanabe,and the Self must be something beyond every imagination and fixation. It doasnt belong to past. It is ever free,alive and fresh. If would be othervise,that wouldnt be That. Or the " Self".
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Om namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
« Reply #1714 on: March 13, 2013, 06:11:50 PM »


Arunachala Shiva!
Om namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya!
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Why was I born?
« Reply #1715 on: March 14, 2013, 07:42:38 PM »
A letter: "Dear Papaji, I am leaving tomorrow. One more question. Why was I born?"

Here is the answer of Sri Papaji:

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Self-inquiry and spiritual practices
« Reply #1716 on: March 14, 2013, 08:18:55 PM »
"Regulation of life, such as getting up at a fixed hour, bathing, doing mantra, japa, observing ritual, all this is for people who do not feel drawn to self-enquiry or are not capable of it. But for those who can practise this method all rules and discipline are unnecessary."

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Re: Self-inquiry and spiritual practices
« Reply #1717 on: March 14, 2013, 09:18:44 PM »
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Regulation of life, such as getting up at a fixed hour, bathing, doing mantra, japa, observing ritual, all this is for people who do not feel drawn to self-enquiry or are not capable of it. But for those who can practise this method all rules and discipline are unnecessary."

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That's the key .
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Re: Self-inquiry and spiritual practices
« Reply #1718 on: March 14, 2013, 09:24:34 PM »
But what means "to be capable of"? I can practice Self-inquiry, to be convinced that I do it right but actually doing it wrong.

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1719 on: March 14, 2013, 09:27:27 PM »
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But what means "to be capable of"? I can practice Self-inquiry, to be convinced that I do it right but actually doing it wrong.

Only a true Guru can evaluate that and provide proper Guidance .
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1720 on: March 14, 2013, 09:32:20 PM »
Yes. But we don't have One in body to tell us. So what should we do?


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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1721 on: March 14, 2013, 09:41:27 PM »
Yes. But we don't have One in body to tell us. So what should we do?

Hari the following letter by an European to Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati Mahaswamigal previous Achraya at Sringeri Sharada Peetam and Acharya's reply to the same  will help you get some clarity I suppose .It is suited for all serious aspirants who do not have a physical Guru to guide them .

A Frenchman by name Riviera, wrote to His Holiness Sri Chandrasekhara Bharathi
Mahaswamigal the following letter:


Addressed by:
Jean Riviera,
19, Rue Jouvenet Paris 16, France.

To:
The Dharmathipathi Vidyasagar Sri Sankaracharya Madathipathi.


My Venerable Guru,

Research of the truth and love of peace are my apologizing for sending this
letter.

I am a Frenchman. My learning in English is not all right and I beg to apologise
to my mistakes in their language. I do not know Hindi or Tamil.

If I take the liberty, Venerable Guru, to write directly to your Honour, it is
because I believe in the superiority of Vedanta. I tried to find truth in
occidental philosophies and I found nothing. We are in Europe, in Kali Yuga age,
and there are here too much of excitement, egoism, selfishness, and materialism.
From my boyhood, I try to find path of light. But I am alone in Europe: there
are no light, no Guru, no pandit; Occidental teachers are intellectual, not
spiritual men.


Happily, I found some translations in English of Hindu philosophy. I found
Upanishads and Bhashya of Sri Sankaracharya; I tried to study Sanskrit by myself
and I learned and studied these sacred books.
My aim is illumination. I know that, above all intellectual knowledges, there
are Brahma-Vidya and pure Buddhi. But how to attain the path? I read on the
sacred books that the way is meditation. But how is good meditation?

I take refuge in your honour to enlighten me. I believe in Vedanta and Divine
teachings of Veda. I believe in Divine incarnation of Sri Sankaracharya. I
believe firmly that Truth and Peace are in realization of Purusha, out from Maya
and Avidya.

I have no guide on the hard path; I am alone and I implore your help. I know you
have great experience and powers. I know that space and time are nothing to you
on a certain plane. May I ask your honour to give me light and peace? What is
the mantra or the word; who will give me the way to realize the teaching of the
sacred books? If I was sure that I am linked with a spiritual center, I could
ask for the help of my Guru.


I give over to the kind attention of your honour to care to see the best way to
my spiritual assistance. I know that all will be always right at last. May I
hope to have a letter from your Holiness. I beg your spiritual blessings and
through your honour, I bow to the sacred feet of the Venerable Sri
Sankaracharya.

Riviera

The Jagadguru"s reply

The reply from the Mutt contained the following pregnant passages :

"His Holiness is highly pleased to see what an amount of interest you take in
Sankara in spite of the great barriers of language and distance. He is deeply
touched by your spiritual earnestness.

"The pursuit of Vedantic truth leading to Atmic realization requires as a
preliminary qualification in the seeker that he should have attained a certain
degree of spiritual awakening as much as of intellectual acuteness which he may
have acquired in his previous births. And as he advances he may meet with
difficulties, which he can overcome only with the help of a Guru. It is not
therefore possible to prescribe any one course suitable for all stages.


"The following directions would however be found most helpful to seekers who are
not able readily to consult their Guru at each step and who are eager to make
rapid progress. The steadying of one"s mind is a sine qua non for the
realisation of the Vedantic goal. Keeping this in view the practices indicated
below are advised.


"Firstly, physical: The avoidance of all stimulating food, drink, and the
adoption as far as possible of the vegetarian diet.

"Secondly, moral: The daily exercise of universal love without distinction of
any kind towards all beings and the actual rendering of helpful services to them
in a spirit of selfless service.

"Thirdly, mental: The cultivation of a habit of retiring into one"s own self.
Daily concentration of thought on some single object held in the highest
reverence through which spiritual light is sought.
Concentration should be
practised whenever the mind is fresh and vigorous and it may be resorted to as
often as convenient without getting tired. The mind should be guarded against
falling asleep during the exercise.
One may start with a few minutes practice
and the period may be gradually increased.

"Fourthly, intellectual:
Enquiry (vichara) should be made every day and the
problem of truth deeply pondered over whenever they occur.



Vedanta in Europe
"His Holiness fully realizes your difficulties especially as you are struggling
in an atmosphere surcharged with materialism. But Europe is bound to seek
Vedantic light in due course.
Only she has to persevere in her pursuit of truth
in preference to things of a lower order. She is now steadfast in seeking truth
in the world of science. She will be led to the search of truth in metaphysics
also provided her thirst for knowledge continues.

"Should you adopt the practices indicated above as far as it is possible for you
to do so and write to His Holiness again, He will most gladly give you such
further help as may be possible in this direction".


It is interesting to learn that the gentlemen earnestly followed these
directions and desired to have a picture of His Holiness or Sri Sankaracharya to
fix his mind upon and have "a vivid object of daily contemplation." In reply
thereto he was informed that His Holiness was highly pleased to learn that he
was pursuing with much earnestness the practical as well as the theoretical
courses indicated and the at His Holiness was much pleased to send for his use a
picture of His own Guru which he himself constantly kept before Him.

He was cautioned, "This picture should be approached every day only when one is
perfectly clean in body and perfectly clean in mind. Absolute purity in thought,
in word and in deed, is demanded. The more steadfast and concentrated the
devotion with which one prays for help seeking Atmic light, the more quickly
does one receive the blessings of the Guru whose spiritual existence will always
be felt whenever there is a sincere seeker. Kindly continue your efforts with
this conviction."

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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1722 on: March 14, 2013, 09:56:14 PM »
Thank you! Are you aware of some Self-realized followers of Sri Ramana who teach today in English?
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Re: Fundamental question about Mind!
« Reply #1723 on: March 14, 2013, 10:11:58 PM »
Thank you! Are you aware of some Self-realized followers of Sri Ramana who teach today in English?
Hari

I am not competent to say who is self realized and Bahgwan Ramana never appointed any follower to carry his message . Today we see many people  playing the role of Guru advertising themselves as coming in Ramana Lineage via Papaji etc .Most of these people are western people and teach in English and they are popular for holding their "Satsangs" . Except for seeing them on youtube I have not met any of them nor I am aware of how far true they are . But there are some Western Teachers who teach Self Enquiry and I find them to be very mature and clear and I will share their names etc via a PM to you . Just give me a day's time ,I will send u tomorrow by PM .
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« Reply #1724 on: March 14, 2013, 10:12:59 PM »
Thank you! :)
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