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Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« on: February 18, 2013, 07:15:01 AM »
Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
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Interview with Annamalai Swami
Tiruvannamalai 1993 India
Conducted by Madhukar Thompson
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 07:51:45 AM »
Thank you !  :)
There was one more recording of Annamalai Swami's ...
Subramanian ji was kind enough to send it to me ! I can never forget how helpful that simple CD was.
I'll listen to this today! Should be a great aid ! Thank you. We can probably quote some portions of this interview here :)
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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 11:43:09 AM »
"What ever thoughts may be there, I am not that :)!
For example there are millions of people with various thoughts, but we are not identifying with their thoughts. The same kind of view with our thoughts . What ever thoughts may be coming its not me. Because the real I is not a thought."  --- Annamalai Swami

« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 02:36:54 PM by Tushnim.Asanam »
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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 01:01:30 PM »
This is a good method that helps obt to nit get identified with the thoughts. But the thoughts spring from desire, hence the root of these thoughts or desire ought to be sorted, otherwise thoughts will keep coming and one has to keep not identifying with them as they keep appearing till one is master of ones own self.
मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 01:12:03 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,
         :) That is very true. But you have to note that that holds for self enquiry also.
This, what you have just presented, is what I have always been stressing upon.
Please think deeply how this , whats mentioned above, really aids that [desire elimination as well].
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 01:20:09 PM »
Udai,

Had you conveyed what you have conveyed above so many debates could have been avoided.
My whole point was only this, that unless the thoughts keep projecting, one cannot be said to be free as owing to this only he is having to exercise himself in not identifying with them.

This is a facilitator, like many othets and yes this holds good for any method but the root has to be sorted.
मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 01:28:18 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,
         :) There are different views as to whether or not thoughts have to be totally eliminated.
Thoughts are not the problem ,ignorance is the problem ... presence of a projected thought need not mean ignorance.
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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 01:36:01 PM »
Udai,

Lets not even get to elimination of thoughts. Whether thoughts get eliminated or not - let it be what ever be.

In my understanding, it is not just ignorance or absence of knowledge that is the problem. One may have knowledge but still may not be master. Whether thoughts be or nor not is not the real question. What ever originates must originate at the Master's command, this is being truly free or master. There, there will be no necessity to either get identified or not get identified with thoughts.
मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!

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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 01:41:30 PM »
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One may have knowledge but still may not be master.

Then why do we say he has knowledge. That means knowledge is not there.

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There, there will be no necessity to either get identified or not get identified with thoughts.

When there is no identification, no need to get unidentify.
when there is a tendency to identify, detachment is practised to get rid of the identification... until both identificaiton and detachment cease and person reamins as he is.
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Re: Interview with Annamalai Swami - Tiruvannamalai 1993
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »
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One may have knowledge but still may not be master.
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Then why do we say he has knowledge. That means knowledge is not there.


Yes, truly that is not knowledge. But it had to be conveyed to come to conclusion that that is not perfect knowledge.

The purpose of knowledge is only to light darkness of ignorance.

But if itvis true knowledge then knowledge also goes along with ignorance. If knowledge remains then ignorance also remains.
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There, there will be no necessity to either get identified or not get identified with thoughts.

When there is no identification, no need to get unidentify.
when there is a tendency to identify, detachment is practised to get rid of the identification... until both identificaiton and detachment cease and person reamins as he is.

So long there is something for knowledge to either identify or not identify then it is not 100% complete.

When you say there is no identification then there must be something  with which there is no identification. Therefore its not complete yet.

Knowledge continues along with corresponding ignorance.

True knowledge goes along with ignorance
« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 02:00:17 PM by Nagaraj »
मनश्चेन्न लग्नं गुरोरंघ्रिपद्मे ततः किं ततः किं ततः किं ततः किम् ।।

Manaschenna lagnam Gurorangri padme, Thatha kim Thathah Kim, Thathah kim Thathah kim

If the mind does not remain at the Lotus feet of Guru, What is the use? What is the use? What is the use!!